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    Triple Turnabout Case DV-2 (Courtroom Rp)

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    Triple Turnabout Case DV-2 (Courtroom Rp)

    Post by Ananaz on Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:48 pm

    Defense: Tipolox    Prosecution: EvanSoulEater173
    Winner:Prosecution
    Opening statement
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    It all happened at one building. Three crimes, three murders, three victims, three witnesses…. One culprit. The defendant’s name is Shi-Long Lang, and he is suspected of killing victims Pearl Fey, Ini Miney, and Kristoph Gavin. All three were killed in the same building, a fusion of a police station and a hospital, and the defendant was a security guard who worked there. All three murder weapons have the defendant’s fingerprints, and we have a witness for each murder. We also have a motive for all three murders! Each victim was somehow connected to a case that was solved 2 months ago…. The HQ-9 incident. The defendant was the lead detective on that case, and caught the wrong man. He was fired for this mistake, and now got a low-paying job as head of security in this building. He had the opportunity to commit all three murders, and he followed through! This monster of a defendant killed three people all in the same day! He should go to prison for his crimes![20:48:15 17/11/2015]

    @ Tipolox :

    [20:48:22 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ?
    [20:48:38 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The thing is.
    [20:48:47 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    In the testimony
    [20:49:17 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Huh I mean
    [20:49:29 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The Statement
    [20:49:33 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    It said
    [20:49:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Shi-Long Lang took the money
    [20:50:14 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ?
    [20:50:21 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    BUT INFACT
    [20:50:25 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IF WE TURN IT AROUND
    [20:50:31 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IT WAS NOT FOUND ON THE DEFENDANT
    [20:50:37 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Ah!
    [20:51:37 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (And the trick in this courtroom is you can either use bluff or logic)
    [20:51:42 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Just to mention)
    [20:51:54 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Hint:I am bluffing but it doesn't matter anymore
    [20:51:58 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (ok)
    [20:52:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Why would the security guard
    [20:52:07 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kil Pear fey?
    [20:52:11 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    It's impossible
    [20:52:15 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And I have evidence to support it
    [20:52:23 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    How could the money not be found on the Defendant if he had a motive?
    [20:52:28 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (crap)
    [20:52:54 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (You go on)
    [20:53:31 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    He didn't have motive
    [20:54:09 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    He was working a low paying job
    [20:55:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT:stareoftruth:
    [20:55:39 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (give me a second
    [20:56:32 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    But the thing is
    [20:56:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Even if you look at it that way
    [20:57:24 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    And he had no family or friends.
    [20:57:36 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    It is not possible
    [20:57:41 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    For him to have stolen this money
    [20:58:39 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Because the money in question
    [20:58:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WAS NOT SUBMITTED To bank for a simple reason
    [20:58:58 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    BECAUSE HE WAS ARRESTED BEFORE HE COULD
    [20:58:59 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr9AVYDEeMQ&list=PLn3hhtejPh5tXBdtsXgiNvNu_flISE1Yj
    [20:59:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Loop it
    [20:59:40 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Dear Cernis Wager
    [20:59:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    If you don't know logic don't bother to wager it.
    [21:00:00 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT !  
    [21:02:44 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And I even other evidence
    [21:03:01 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    To remove
    [21:03:07 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ;o
    [21:03:09 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Some Doubts on my client
    [21:03:23 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    This is the piece of evidence that removes doubts of my client.
    [21:03:38 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Huh!?
    [21:04:24 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (We need a picture of whoever i am shocked)
    [21:05:39 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    This is hard :/
    [21:05:56 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I know.
    [21:06:06 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And This is hard to prove larry's buttz guilt with this photo
    [21:06:25 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    http://i.imgur.com/7WQSsok.png
    [21:06:27 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ;-;
    [21:06:33 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Do you notice the defendant anywhere?
    [21:06:57 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    No..
    [21:07:11 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    DO YOU SEE NOW
    [21:07:15 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WHERE IS THE DEFENDANT?
    [21:07:18 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (xD)
    [21:07:22 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    I...
    [21:07:53 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :

    [21:08:12 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The thing is.
    [21:08:21 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I know who is this person
    [21:08:28 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And I can bring him to court
    [21:08:48 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Larry Butz...
    [21:09:08 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ?!
    [21:09:16 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    How can you prosecution dare
    [21:09:26 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    TO TRY AND DECLARE MY CLIENT OF FALSE CHARGES!
    [21:09:36 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    YOU SHOULD HAVE MERCY ATLEAST
    [21:09:41 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    No but not in the least you didn't
    [21:09:42 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Anyhow
    [21:09:52 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I have evidence that points towards larry butz being the killer
    [21:10:18 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Wait)
    [21:10:23 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Yes?)
    [21:10:30 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Arent you supposed to be keeping people away from jail?))
    [21:10:49 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Yes as long as my defendant is declared not guilty
    [21:10:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Right now
    [21:10:59 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Larry butz is not the defendant
    [21:11:14 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Not for this trial atleast
    [21:11:18 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh)
    [21:11:24 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (the Defendant Will remain the same as
    [21:11:30 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    long as the trial isn't over
    [21:11:36 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    http://www.court-records.net/arts/OA%20-%20Larry.jpg
    [21:11:46 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    This is a photograph I took of larry butz.
    [21:12:49 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Mhm...
    [21:13:09 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    DOES IT LOOK SIMILAR TO YOU!
    [21:13:23 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Hint : I only prove larry,s guilt for kristoph's death not the others
    [21:13:26 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Yes..
    [21:13:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Still.
    [21:13:34 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh..)
    [21:13:43 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I give a doubt that larry is probably the serial killer here
    [21:14:05 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Any Objections with evidence that larry didn't?
    [21:14:39 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Present evidence dude,
    [21:14:46 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (You are not a eggroll that can't move)
    [21:14:50 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Dong see any)
    [21:14:55 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (try to bluff or something so I can't answer
    [21:14:59 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (like
    [21:15:14 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (explain someone somone fingerprints on a murder weapon or something
    [21:16:26 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Ex: Can you explain the fingerprints of the defendant on the whip or something
    [21:16:28 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    THE WHIP!
    [21:16:35 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    ??
    [21:16:39 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (I said it right when you put it)
    [21:16:54 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    What whip?
    [21:17:01 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    The whip was used to strangle the victim!
    [21:17:12 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    So what are you saying?
    [21:17:30 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    The whip the defendants girlfriend gave him
    [21:18:14 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    The defandant said that he would go to a professional whip polisher and polish the whip.
    [21:18:27 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    But instead he used it strangle the victim!
    [21:18:33 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    How do you explain that?
    [21:18:47 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:18:52 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Agggghh
    [21:19:22 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Also text whiting [] is in your mind if you reply to a sentence or use it for hint you are cheating and reading other's mind
    [21:19:35 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [What do I do? Can I raise a objection on it?]
    [21:19:43 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:19:58 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    W-wait
    [21:20:03 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    It's not over yet!
    [21:20:12 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Wait what?)
    [21:20:13 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (I don't have any evidence agaisnt that sorry)
    [21:20:23 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (So i win man?)
    [21:20:30 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [I know I'l change the subject]
    [21:20:38 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:20:42 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh yeah you can do that xD)
    [21:20:49 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    You know.
    [21:20:57 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Phoenix wright has the reputation of turning stuff around.
    [21:21:05 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I am phoenix wright and I will turn it around.
    [21:21:17 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh)
    [21:21:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The reason the defendant couldn't have keeped the whip
    [21:21:39 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    He said earlier
    [21:22:07 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I swear man, the knife was planted on me when I wasn’t looking!
    [21:22:16 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The only way he could've planted that either
    [21:22:20 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WAS TO BE INCONSCIOUS
    [21:22:38 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And I have testimony evidence from speaking with him i nthe detention center
    [21:22:44 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :

    [21:22:55 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The reason we found the whip at the scene.
    [21:22:56 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WAS CLEAR
    [21:23:13 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IT WAS TO FRAME INTO THINKING THAT SHI_LONG LANG DROPPED IT HERE
    [21:23:24 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Since franziska gave him the whip.
    [21:23:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And now I know what the heck is going on.
    [21:23:37 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    There was an
    [21:23:44 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Accomplice
    [21:24:00 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (There always is ;-Wink
    [21:24:06 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [Nice job wright, way to bluff]
    [21:24:23 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [I haven't shred any evidence to proof my claims]
    [21:24:43 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [I hope he doesn't notice that either, he seems like a fresh prosecutor to me
    [21 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    [Hmmm I dont get it...]
    [21:25:57 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay Faraday (Co-Defense): Miles Edgeworth
    [21:26:01 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Miles is you
    [21:26:11 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay Faraday (Co-Prosecute)*
    [21:26:25 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay: Wright hasn't shown any evidence to proove his claims.
    [21:26:46 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh)
    [21:26:51 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (God damn it man(
    [21:26:56 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay: He's either bluffing, I can tell because the descendant of the yataaragusa "The Truth Thief" is vivacious
    [21:27:06 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Also you play as maya Fey the Co-Defense too)
    [21:27:27 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (How?)
    [21:27:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (just do it when I need help
    [21:27:39 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (But you can't always help so do I
    [21:27:49 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Now I have proof to show my claims are valid
    [21:28:07 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The defendant said
    [21:28:13 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I found that pistol lying on the ground
    [21:28:16 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    But he didn't notice
    [21:28:21 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The body
    [21:28:24 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And then
    [21:28:28 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    He climbed up the ladder
    [21:28:36 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Did you just see it.
    [21:28:40 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IT EXPLAINS
    [21:28:44 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THE FINGERPRINTS O NTHE LADDER
    [21:29:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    What do you have to say bout that miles?
    [21:29:27 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Hmmm)
    [21:29:30 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (I can see it)
    [21:29:34 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (I know it man)
    [21:29:47 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Wait)
    [21:29:54 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (Use your mind sometimes)
    [21:30:07 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :

    [21:32:07 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (I dont see it...)
    [21:33:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Now
    [21:33:07 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IT'S OBVIOUS
    [21:33:13 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THAT EVERY EVIDENCE POINTS TO LARRY BUTZ
    [21:33:15 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    But still
    [21:33:47 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Grrr..
    [21:37:01 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Well
    [21:37:06 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Miles.
    [21:37:10 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    That's as far as you go.
    [21:37:24 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    xD
    [21:37:32 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay:
    [21:37:41 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Welp
    [21:37:41 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Kay: Wright you forgot one thing.
    [21:38:04 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THAT THE KNIFE HAD THE DEFENDANT'S FINGERPRINTS
    [21:38:29 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    !
    [21:39:06 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Yes!
    [21:39:13 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WWWWWW... I-I-Imposssssssible
    [21:39:20 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:39:44 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [I am out of objections I think this is over.
    [21 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [Shi-Long Lang will be declared guilty as the real culprit roams free
    [21 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    [I guess, I have no choice but to show my trump card
    [21 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :

    [21:40:35 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And this is where.
    [21:40:38 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Most of the lawyers
    [21:40:41 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Would fuck up
    [21:40:59 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    But I won't.
    [21:41:00 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ;-;
    [21:41:09 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    ?
    [21:41:20 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    We were all led to believe
    [21:41:28 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Taht the accomplice was someone else then larry
    [21:41:30 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    But infact
    [21:41:40 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    If we switch the accomplice and the murderer's place.
    [21:41:51 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WE have now the real murderer to find
    [21:41:52 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    And now
    [21:41:54 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    I know who it is
    [21:42:08 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    The dinner
    [21:42:10 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    A steak dinner found at the security room. Forensic analysis reveals that the meal was taken from the box and put on the plate at 9:00, bears Oldbag’s fingerprints, and the meal shares similar unknown components with the whip that haven’t been discovered yet. Photo here.
    [21:42:13 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Surprised
    [21:42:18 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:42:24 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    IT SHARES
    [21:42:31 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THE SAME COMPONENTS WITH THE WHIP
    [21:42:46 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    MS OLDBAG IS THE TRUE MURDERER
    [21:44:15 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Judge: Any objections?
    [21:44:40 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Crap..
    [21:45:16 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (You just realized how weak you could be as a prosecution that is why the prosecution is harder then defense
    [21:45:44 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    (why don't you bluff for the look of it?
    [21:48:40 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    So
    [21:48:46 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Miles, did I outwitt you?
    [21:50:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Well
    [21:52:19 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Miles
    [21:52:37 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    No!
    [21:52:52 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    ???
    [21:53:08 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    The AA: HQ Incident files!
    [21:53:19 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    !!! What about it
    [21:56:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    So what?
    [21:56:10 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Well
    [21:56:18 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    !-!-!
    [21:56:20 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    WHAT!
    [21:56:30 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Judge: But this creates a motive for the defendant.
    [21:56:40 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Judge: I'm now ready to declare my verdict!
    [21:56:47 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    (Oh shet)
    [21:56:53 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Judge: The defendant is obviou-
    [21:57:08 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    T-That's Judge! G-Give me a last chance!
    [21:57:19 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    T-To-To Prove that the defendant is not guilty.
    [21:57:34 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    On.....e p-p-piece of evi-vi-vidence...
    [21:57:41 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    Let me present it.... PLEASE
    [21:57:44 17/11/2015]
    @ EvanSoulEater173 :
    Feeling expand dong
    [21:57:48 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :

    [21:58:02 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    THe piece of evidence
    [21:58:12 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    That prooves defendant to be not guilty is.
    [21:58:22 17/11/2015]
    @ Tipolox :
    ... I.... I can't prove it...


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